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  Examining Scripture to see if Jesus was, and is, God.

  by jonathan dough in

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  i'll start with john 14:8-10. .

  scriptural support for the triune nature of god, and the gradual recognition that jesus christ, the word incarnate (john 1:1), was and is god, can be found throughout the bible.

  the evidence is abundant and unfolds like a flower, foreshadowed in the old testament and revealed in the new testament.

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  jonathan dough

  Now you are trying to tell me I am wrong and teaching that Wonderful Counselor is a name, or Mighty God is a name or Eternal Father is a name, or Prince of Peach is a name.

  That is exactly what I am saying. You are using a concept of name too narrowly, which is a common JW tactic. While shem can also be a synonym for reputation and fame, it is predominantly used as that which one is called, thus a name. The child will be called a name. In this instance it can have a dual application. Christianity teaches Christ had many names, that the sense of name with respect to him is very broad, and for an exhaustive list of Christ's other names, check the subject index of Strong and Vines where you will find at least 150 other "names" for Christ such as "I AM." We know you reject the Trinity, but I'd much rather put my trust in 2 Billion Christians and the vast majority of Bibles and scholars who apply a broader interpretation of shem and other references to Christ. The I AM is a name. Moses asked God specifically for a name, that which he should be called. Exodus 3:16. You're thinking in English.

  http://144000.110mb.com/trinity/index.html#trinity-home
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  Examining Scripture to see if Jesus was, and is, God.

  by jonathan dough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll start with john 14:8-10. .

  scriptural support for the triune nature of god, and the gradual recognition that jesus christ, the word incarnate (john 1:1), was and is god, can be found throughout the bible.

  the evidence is abundant and unfolds like a flower, foreshadowed in the old testament and revealed in the new testament.

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  jonathan dough

  One more reason Christ cannot have been a mere man and not an angel but God.

  Jesus is “master” and absolute ruler - (Despotes); a separate Christ and a separate God cannot both exercise this role - (2 Peter 2:1; Jude 4)

  http://144000.110mb.com/trinity/index-5.html#26
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  Atheists, Agnostics, Doubters: What made you disregard the Bible?

  by DubR in

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  jonathan dough

  Hah, Hah! What Daniel-P said!! Yeah, DubR, I saw Jonathan Dough's comments on the "Atheists ever attacked by Demonz" thread; that guy sounds like a JW or Born-Again, and not in a good way, either...

  Well, since you brought it up I'll just repost it for the benefit of the others.

  It is the belief that all the supernatural creatures in the Bible (God, angels, demons,ect) don't exist.

  No wonder you're seeing demons; you're anti-Christ. You opened the door right up. As long as you believe this drivel you have no hope. That's the way it is. You will only have bad ahead of you in your life. It will only get worse, maybe not right away, but unless you snap out of this idiocy you are stepping into a mine field. Don't delude yourself, and don't fall for the nonsense other atheists spew on this site. The devil came along and snatched away the Word.

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  Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

  by outofthebox in

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  jonathan dough

  You are a IDIOT!!!

  That should be "you are an idiot!!!"
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  Examining Scripture to see if Jesus was, and is, God.

  by jonathan dough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll start with john 14:8-10. .

  scriptural support for the triune nature of god, and the gradual recognition that jesus christ, the word incarnate (john 1:1), was and is god, can be found throughout the bible.

  the evidence is abundant and unfolds like a flower, foreshadowed in the old testament and revealed in the new testament.

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  jonathan dough

  And another one:

  The fullness of the Godhead dwells inseparably in Jesus - (Colossians 2:9); He is the very imprint of God’s being - (Hebrews 1:3)

  http://144000.110mb.com/trinity/index-6.html#29
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  Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

  by outofthebox in

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  jonathan dough

  Why cant you challenge what I said about the bible,

  That the flood didn't happen? That's your sole reason for rejecting scripture? Faith plays a big role, kid. Besides, you can't prove that it didn't happen. So now you want to discuss whether the Bible is the Word of God? Is that the direction you are taking this?
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  Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

  by outofthebox in

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  By the way jonathan, I never said I see demons. I stated it was a JW friend of mine. But then again you are an idiot!!!

  Really? A JW friend of yours? Sure looks like you're talking about yourself here. I'll repost your post. Aliens?

  This is one of my biggest questions now. I grew up a JW and have heard of many demon experiences. I remember at 10yrs old, I was laying in my bed and some kind of unseen force was sitting at the foot of my bed. I was wide awake and jumped up and ran to sleep in my sisters room. Also recently, about 2 weeks ago, I was trying t go to sleep and as soon as I opened my eyes my tv turned on by itself (no timer or anything like that). I wasn't scared when it happened, just annoyed and turned it off and went back to sleep. Nowadays I would rather come to a conclusion that these unseen forces are unknown lifeforms or even aliens instead of demons. I have noticed with my new belief, even if some weird experience does happen to me I wont be scared like I was growing up a JW and would most likely be facinated. At the same time I wouldn't play with a Ouija board or practice Satanism or something because weird crap will happen. I feel someday science will explain what these unseen annoying forces are! Until then, they dont scare me anymore.

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  Are there any atheists that experienced demons atacks?

  by outofthebox in

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  jonathan dough

  Last but not least, people like you are the reason I am free from religious bondage because religious people like you are IDIOTIC!!!!!!!!!

  Well, that was very eloquent.
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  Just Thought I'd Share..

  by AwSnap in

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  we have some close, non-jw extended family staying with us....they drove 700 miles to get here.

  they will be here for a week....so far it's been about 5 days and my jw sibling has seen them for one hour.

  my sibling has been doing field service, family study, there's a meeting tonight, and family worship night.

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  jonathan dough

  Here's the solution. Everybody calm down, sit in a big circle on the floor and read this line for line out loud, after you print it out. Then everybody will be happy.

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  On the watchtower.org site: Can a Pagan Holiday Be Made Christian?

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.watchtower.org/e/20071215/article_01.htm.

  do you find it acceptable that a religious leader would give a seemingly christian meaning to events and symbols whose roots go back to ancient paganism?

  as to the proper course, the scriptures admonish true christians: what fellowship do righteousness and lawlessness have?

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  My reply: Do you find it acceptable that the governing body has ignored Paul's direct counsel in Romans 14 not to judge others on the observances of days?

  Very good point. You beat me to it.